Thursday, February 13, 2014

Good Signs For Marriage Equality

It appears that a federal judge has declared Virginia's same-sex marriage ban unconstitutional, hard on the heels of the same decision being made regarding Kentucky's same-sex marriage ban.  Heh, maybe SCOTUS Justice Scalia was right about something--if not in the way he intended.

But I think a very good sign for marriage equality happens to be Senator Ted Cruz pushing an anti-marriage equality bill based on states' rights. He's like the patron of lost causes that still lose. And like (B)rand Paul, I'm pretty sure he's got an agenda that doesn't have so much to do with winning, as signifying for those political sugar daddy donations.

And because he's a big old bigot.  So, there's that, too.

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi Vixen, most of the conservatives that I know (and I actually hang out in conservative circles, unlike my liberal friends) accept same sex marriage when it is the product of legislation -- the will of the people expressed through state government.

Most conservatives do not accept same sex marriage when it flies in the face of the will of the people and simply demonstrates the bias of some judge.

I understand why we are seeing the legal imposition of same sex marriage. It is because most of the states that would be pro-SSM have in fact adopted the new form of marriage. From now on out, it's going to be a tough sled.

I don't know how it will work out in the end, but I believe that the final yea or nay will be after my lifetime. You realize that many states have marriage between a man and woman as part of their constitution. So of course various federal judges are starting to intervene when the will of the people is not with them.

As I may have mentioned, my black friends are against same sex marriage. One is a Baptist, and a couple are Seventh Day Adventists. They would agree with the left on some issues, but they deeply resent gay issues being equated with the civil rights struggle.

Naturally, you understand what a powerful element the black church is in the black community. And I promise you, very few of those pastors are pro-SSM in Sunday pulpits. So there is a lot of conservative sentiment on the part of blacks when it comes to this issue.

--Formerly Amherst

Vixen Strangely said...

I guess your black friends and my gay friends have a disagreement on this--but their opinion doesn't matter as much to me as equal treatment under the law. I don't think it's right for the majority to determine whether any minority group should have rights. They can go ahead and resent it.

There are white people I have come across in my travels who resent the civil rights movement in the first place. But the civil rights movement happened anyway. And it did often with judicial rulings that went against majority opinion.

Anonymous said...

Vixen, we have discussed this before, and I think you know my views on the subject.

I believe that marriage is too important culturally and historically for it to be subject to anything other than the democratic process as the people's will work through their legislatures.

I think there are good arguments on both sides of this debate, and resolution can only come after quite a lot of thoughtful consideration throughout the country.

So I'm afraid I have to choose democracy.

--Formerly Amherst

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